On this episode: it’s been a week since Frances McDormand namechecked the Inclusion Rider at the Oscars. How does it work? How will its supporters sustain the momentum for it, especially since it already has its detractors? Next the work of Ava DuVernay. And the work she was doing that’s shaping the work she’s doing now. Also… our work at the Oscars – we discuss the process behind our Oscar coverage, from the writing to the assigning to, yes, even the bathroom breaks.